Chad Conley — In His Own Words

Why I Took On the State of California

I sued the California Insurance Commissioner over a rule that made it illegal for me to help my own family. I lost. I'd do it again.

Conley v. Jones — Case No. BC630383 — Los Angeles Superior Court

A Sunday Morning That Changed Everything

In 2016, I was lying in bed on a Sunday morning with my fiancée. We had been together for years. We were engaged. I had just bailed out her son — a young man I was about to call my stepson — who was fighting a heroin addiction and had been arrested.

She looked at me and asked the question every family asks in that moment: "Honey, what are we going to do about Jason's case? Who are we going to hire?"

I have been in this industry since 2008. I know every attorney in Southern California. I know who fights hard for their clients and who just collects a fee. I know who the dump trucks are. I know who the exceptional ones are. And I was about to tell her — as her fiancé, as a man who loved her son, as someone who genuinely wanted to help.

Then I stopped cold. Because I realized that if I answered her, I could lose my license. Under California regulation 10 CCR §2071, a licensed bail agent cannot — directly or indirectly — recommend an attorney to anyone they have bonded. No exceptions. Not for family. Not for a fiancée's son. Not for anyone.

I thought: this is insane. This rule was supposed to protect people from corrupt referral kickbacks. Instead it was about to make me a criminal for trying to help the person I loved most.

“I was about to tell her who to hire. Then I realized that if I answered her, I could lose my license. The law made no exception for family.”

— Chad Conley, Licensed Bail Agent #1845390

So I Sued the State

I filed Chad Conley v. Dave Jones, Case No. BC630383, in Los Angeles Superior Court on August 11, 2016. I made two arguments: the Insurance Commissioner didn't have the authority to make this rule, and the rule violated bail agents' First Amendment rights.

The trial was November 30, 2017. The judge ruled for the Commissioner on February 9, 2018. The court found that when a bail agent refers an arrestee to a lawyer, it is "inherently misleading" because it can create conflicts of interest and undue influence.

I lost. I respect the ruling and I follow it. I still believe families deserve better guidance from people who know the system — and I will keep speaking up for them.

What the ruling did clarify: a social media post that an arrestee happens to see does not violate the rule. Referring someone to the State Bar's lawyer search or the Public Defender's office is also allowed. Those are the paths I point people to today.

Public Court Record

Case Name

Conley v. Dave Jones

Case Number

BC630383

Court

Los Angeles Superior Court

Filed

August 11, 2016

Trial Date

November 30, 2017

Decision

February 9, 2018

Regulation challenged: 10 CCR §2071 — prohibition on bail agents recommending attorneys to arrestees.

What Nobody Tells You About This Industry

Here is what I said in that courtroom and what I will say anywhere: this rule is being violated rampantly across the industry. Bail agents are recommending attorneys every single day. Nobody says anything because that is the way everybody wants to keep it.

Attorneys do not want this rule changed — even though changing it would benefit clients — because the current arrangement benefits them. The bondsmen know who the good attorneys are. The attorneys know the bondsmen know. And the referral pipeline runs quietly in the background while the client pays the price.

I did not challenge this rule to make trouble. I challenged it because a family in crisis deserves honest guidance from someone who actually knows the system. I was that person. The law said I had to stay silent.

I Learned This Industry From the Inside

Before I ever sold a bail bond, I spent years doing bail skips — tracking down and returning defendants who had failed to appear, so the bail agent who wrote the bond would not have to pay the forfeiture. I did that work for thirteen different bail bond companies across Southern California.

When you recover a $100,000 or $150,000 bond for someone, you become their best friend fast. I watched how those companies operated from the inside. I saw how they talked to clients, how they priced bonds, and what they told people about what they were legally required to charge.

Here is what I saw: agents would write a bond at the full 10% on paper, then quietly tell the client to pay less — and later write off the balance as uncollectible. They were giving rebates. They just were not telling clients that rebates were legal, that clients had a right to ask for them, or that the law required the best available price to be offered. The discount was a favor. It should have been a right.

The moment I started selling bonds myself, those same companies were no longer my friends. But what I had learned — about pricing, about the law, about what clients were actually owed — I was not going to forget.

How It Happened

The Room Where It Started

How a conversation with the oldest man in the industry led to the legal framework that changed everything

When I first started selling bail bonds, I worked for a company in Orange County. I was going to bar association meetings — suited up, ready to network, sponsor events, build relationships with criminal defense attorneys. I wanted to compete on price. I wanted to walk into those rooms and tell attorneys I could offer their clients 6%, 7%, 8% — not the standard 10%. The company I was working for did not want that. We parted ways.

I went to work for Don's Bail Bonds. Don was the oldest bail agent I had ever met — in his mid-to-upper 80s, had been in this industry his entire life. His wife did it. His sons did it. He had been writing bonds since before the Yellow Pages. He was a dinosaur, and I mean that with complete respect. He had seen everything.

Don's guys were rough. There was no way they were going to bar association meetings. That was not their world. But Don knew I was the suited-up guy who could walk into those rooms, drink with attorneys, listen, learn, sponsor, and build. He wanted to empower me to go do that — and, honestly, to help save a company that had been built on Yellow Pages and was watching the world change around it.

I sat down with Don and told him my idea. I wanted to advertise rebates. I wanted to write it on the wall at bar association meetings. I wanted to scream it. Don had been in the industry long enough to remember that years before, there had been some litigation — something about rebates, something about Prop 103. He could not remember the details exactly. But he remembered it existed. He said: I know John Rohrbaugh. Let's run this by him.

That is how Rohrbaugh got involved. John Rohrbaugh is one of the top bail bond attorneys in California. Don made the introduction. The three of us started digging into the law together.

What Rohrbaugh found — and what I had suspected — was that bail bonds are insurance. Proposition 103, passed by California voters in 1988, brought insurance under competitive rate regulation. It included an exclusion list. Bail bonds were not on it. Which meant bail bonds were included. Which meant the 10% rate was not a legal floor — it was a maximum. And rebates were explicitly permitted as long as they were non-discriminatory.

The 6-7-8% structure was mine. I engineered it. Rohrbaugh built the legal foundation — the argument that bail bonds were not excluded from Prop 103, the non-discrimination requirement, the start-and-stop date structure for rebate categories. But the idea of creating tiered rebate categories, filing them properly, and advertising them openly at bar associations — that was what I came in with. That was what I had been trying to do since before I ever met Don.

Here is what most people in the industry still do not understand: you are allowed to create rebate categories. You define the qualification — private counsel, for example, or a specific time window. You file a start date and a stop date. And during that window, every client who walks in the door gets told what rebate they qualify for. You cannot pick and choose. You cannot give the informed client a discount and charge the uninformed client full rate. That is the non-discrimination requirement. That is the part the industry ignored. That is the part I built my business around.

The Math

What This Cost Me — And Why I Did It Anyway

At 10%

$10,000

on a $100k bond

At 6%

$6,000

nearly 2× volume needed

Let me be direct about the economics, because people assume I did this to get rich. I did not.

On a $100,000 bond at 10%, I make $10,000. On the same bond at 6%, I make $6,000. To match my income at 6%, I need to write nearly twice as many bonds. That is not a shortcut. That is a bet on volume, on reputation, on being the agent attorneys actually recommend because their clients get a fair price.

The agents who came after me were protecting their margins. I understand that. But they were also protecting a fiction — that 10% was the law, that clients had no right to ask for less, that the industry was operating fairly. It was not. And the families paying those premiums deserved to know the truth.

I chose to tell them. That choice cost me relationships in the industry, a CDI complaint, and years of being the agent other agents warned each other about. I would make the same choice again.

Public Record

Prop 103 — What I Found, What I Said, and What Happened Next

How a bail agent's research became part of a $69.4 million federal antitrust case

After I started selling bonds, I wanted a legal, transparent way to compete on price — not the back-room handshake version I had watched for years. So I hired John Rohrbaugh, one of the top bail bond attorneys in California, and we dug into the law.

What we found was Proposition 103. Passed in 1988, it brought bail bonds under California insurance regulation — and insurance law requires that the best available price be offered to every customer. It explicitly allows premium rebates as long as they are not unfairly discriminatory. The 10% rate was not a legal floor. It was a floor the industry had invented and enforced through intimidation.

I was the first bail agent in California to come out publicly and say it — loudly, in writing, on the record. Rebates are legal. Clients have a right to pay less. The industry told me I was wrong, that I was going to lose my license, that I was destroying the market. I kept saying it anyway.

To be precise about who was pushing back: it was other bail bondsmen — the old-school agents who had built their businesses around the fiction that 10% was fixed. Not the surety companies. When an agent rebates, the surety still gets paid the same amount. The rebate comes entirely out of the agent's commission. The agents who came after me were protecting their own margins, not the sureties.

The pushback was not just talk. A complaint was filed against me with the California Department of Insurance. Someone in the industry decided that if they could not win the argument, they would try to take my license. The Department investigated. They took no action. Because what I was doing was legal.

In 2019, a class-action antitrust lawsuit — Crain v. Accredited Surety and Casualty Company — was filed accusing major bail sureties and industry groups of conspiring to fix bail premiums at 10% across California and eliminate the competition Proposition 103 was designed to create. The complaint cited my 2014 post as the only clear public acknowledgment from a California bail agent that rebates were legal and that clients had a right to them. I was not a defendant. I was not a party. I was cited as evidence that the truth was publicly available — and that the industry had suppressed it anyway.

In 2026, several defendants in that case reached proposed settlements totaling $69.4 million. The case continues against remaining defendants. I am not going to comment on the merits or the outcome. What I will say is this: everything I wrote in 2014 was accurate, it was legal, and it was something every family in California deserved to know.

Case Citation — Public Record

Crain v. Accredited Surety and Casualty Company et al. — filed January 29, 2019

Chad Conley was not a defendant and was not a party to this litigation. He was cited in the complaint as a bail agent who had publicly explained Prop 103 rebate rights to consumers.

“Bail bonds are regulated under Proposition 103, which provides for premium rebates as long as they are not unfairly discriminatory.”

— Chad Conley, 2014 online post — cited in Crain complaint as evidence that rebate rights were publicly known

Out of every bail agent in California, the federal complaint cited exactly two by name. One was me. The other was Sean Cook — my Orange County competitor.

Chad Conley — 2014

“Bail bonds are regulated under Proposition 103, which provides for premium rebates as long as they are not unfairly discriminatory.”

Cited in the federal complaint as evidence that rebate rights were publicly known — and suppressed by the industry anyway.

Sean Cook — Bail Bonds Universal California, CBAA Board Member At-Large, author of "Bail Bonds 101" (the CBAA's recommended guide for all new agents)

“The right answer on the test: no rebates.”

Sean Cook, cited in Crain complaint as evidence of industry training designed to suppress price competition

Both citations are from the Second Amended Complaint in Crain v. Accredited Surety and Casualty Company et al., Case No. 4:19-cv-00717-JST (N.D. Cal.), a public court document. Chad Conley was not a defendant and was not a party to this litigation.

The Second Front

The Second Front: Annual Premium Renewals

While the industry was fighting me over rebates, I was also refusing to do something else everybody else was doing.

Every bail bond application in California had it baked in: an annual premium renewal clause. Twelve months after a bond was written, bail companies would call the client and say the premium was due again. The client — already stressed, already paying off a bond — would get a bill for another year.

I never did it. Not once. I advertised that I did not do it. It is in the Chad the Bail Guy archive if you want to find it.

That practice ended while I was away from the industry for a period. I am not claiming I ended it alone. But I was saying it was wrong before it stopped — the same way I was saying rebates were legal before the federal complaint proved the industry had been suppressing that fact for years.

More on this story coming. The full account of how annual renewals worked, who was doing it, and what it cost families is something I will document here when I am ready to tell it completely.

AB1927 — 2022

The Legislature Agreed With Me

I sued. I lost. Then the California legislature did what the court would not.

When I lost Conley v. Dave Jones in 2018, the court's message was clear: the rule stands, the Commissioner has the authority, and bail agents must stay silent when families ask for help finding a lawyer.

I accepted the ruling. I did not accept that the underlying problem had gone away. Families were still being left without guidance at the worst moment of their lives. And the industry was still quietly routing referrals through back channels while the rule sat on the books to protect the arrangement.

The California Bail Agents Association — CBAA — took up the fight through the legislative process. They pushed for a change to the cold-calling and solicitation rules that govern how bail agents may contact and assist families after an arrest.

In 2022, California Assembly Bill 1927 was signed into law. AB1927 addressed the cold-calling and solicitation practices that had long been used to exploit families at their most vulnerable — the same practices I had been speaking out against for years.

The court said I was wrong about the law. The legislature looked at the same problem and decided something needed to change. I am not claiming credit for AB1927 — CBAA did that work. What I will say is that the question I raised in 2016 was the right question. It just took a different path to get answered.

That is why I keep fighting. Not to relitigate the past. To make sure the next fight gets fought the right way from the start — through the legislature, through the industry, and with the full weight of reform behind it instead of one bail agent standing alone.

The Arc

2016

Chad files Conley v. Dave Jones (BC630383) — challenges attorney-referral ban

2018

Court rules for the Commissioner — Chad loses, rule stands

2019

Crain antitrust complaint cites Chad's 2014 post as the only public acknowledgment of Prop 103 rebates

2022

AB1927 signed into law — CBAA pushes through legislative reform on cold-calling and solicitation

Now

Chad continues fighting for pricing transparency and consumer protection in the bail industry

What This Means for You

I follow every rule, including the ones I disagree with. My license number is 1845390. I have been licensed since 2008. You can verify that at the California Department of Insurance.

I price bonds transparently. Prop 103 allows rebates. I offer them. I do not hide behind a fiction that 10% is the law.

I do not cold-call families. I do not buy arrest data. I do not call your relatives before you can. If you find me, it is because you looked.

I got into this business because I believe people deserve a fair shot — even at the worst moment of their lives. That has not changed.

A note on who I was talking about

When I refer to pressure from other agents over pricing, I am talking about bail bondsmen — not surety companies. When an agent rebates, the surety still gets paid the same amount. The rebate comes out of the agent's commission only. The agents who pushed back were protecting their own margins. That is an important distinction and I want it stated clearly.

Need an attorney referral?

The State Bar of California operates a free lawyer referral service. I am legally permitted to point you there.

State Bar Referral

How It Ended

I lost my case. The industry lost theirs.

I filed my lawsuit in 2016. I lost in 2018. The ruling is public record and I followed it.

In 2019, a federal antitrust case was filed against the bail bond industry in California. The complaint cited my 2014 public statements about Prop 103 rebates as evidence that the truth was publicly available — that clients had a right to pay less, and that the industry had been suppressing that information. I was not a defendant. I was the proof.

Several surety companies have reached proposed settlements in that litigation. The case continues against remaining defendants. The clients I said deserved better in 2014 were right. I was right. The courts are still sorting out what that costs.

The Record

Chad's Track Record

2008Licensed

Licensed Bail Agent

Started in fugitive recovery after the 2008 downturn, working with bail companies across Southern California, then licensed for more than fifteen years. CDI #1845390.

2014Prop 103

Publicly Explained Prop 103 Rebates

Advertised a reduced net cost in 2012 and explained in writing in 2014 that Prop 103 allows premium rebates.

2015CLE

State Bar MCLE Approval

November 2015: State Bar of California approval for "Demystifying the Bail Bond Process," Single Activity Provider #17859, 1.0 hour of attorney continuing-education credit.

2016Lawsuit

A Principled Stand in Court

Conley v. Jones (BC630383), challenging the rule that bars bail agents from recommending attorneys. The court upheld the rule in 2018. Chad follows it fully.

2019Antitrust

Quoted in a Federal Antitrust Complaint

Chad's 2014 public statement on rebates was quoted in the 2019 Crain v. Accredited Surety complaint. He was never a party to the case.

2026Settlement

Industry Antitrust Litigation Continues

In 2026, several defendants reached proposed settlements totaling $69.4 million, which still need court approval. The case continues against the remaining defendants.

All case references are matters of public record. Nothing on this page constitutes legal advice.

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Chad Conley is a licensed California bail agent, License No. 1845390. All case references on this page are matters of public record. Nothing on this page constitutes legal advice. Bail bond premiums are regulated by the California Department of Insurance under Proposition 103. Premium rebates are permitted under California law.